Do you like facts? I hope so, because a lot of them are headed your way, pal.
1. There is no “energy transition.” It's not here. The global demand for fossil fuels (i.e., coal, oil and natural gas) has increased over 117.5% since the 1970s. Fossil fuel consumption is at all-time record highs. For every six units of renewable energy technologies put online, less than one unit of fossil fuel is displaced (see Rather and Mahlik, 2023).
https://ourworldindata.org/energy-production-consumption
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10098-023-02689-8
2. Climate change is real, but the “climate crisis” is imaginary. The term is a political distinction that refers to how global warming will allegedly harm the state of human welfare. But, in spite of warming, there is not a single shred of evidence that the warming has had a negative impact on the human condition.
Here are some facts which you choose to ignore:
๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐๐ ๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ ๐๐ฑ๐ฉ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐ฒ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ง ๐๐จ๐ฎ๐๐ฅ๐๐:
• Africa: +131.8% (2011-20 vs. 1925)
• Americas: +116.9% (2011-20 vs. 1850)
• Asia: +165.8% (2011-20 vs. 1885)
• Europe: +115.0% (2011-20 vs. 1850)
• Oceania: +124.9% (2011-20 vs. 1870)
https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy
The reason for this is because of fossil fuels, which, Have improved our standard of living by producing the electricity supplied to our homes to keep our lights on and HVAC running.
Produce the electricity and/or gas for our stoves to cook our food properly and reduce risk of becoming infected with foodborne pathogens.
Have improved public health by facilitating a clean running water supply and hygienic sewage treatment, in addition to enabling scientists to develop life-saving medications, vaccines and surgical procedures that would otherwise not exist.
Power automobiles, aircraft and other modes of transportation which make it easier for people to get access to better healthcare, better education and many other essential services.
๐๐๐๐ญ๐ก๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐๐๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ-๐ซ๐๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐๐ ๐ง๐๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐ฅ ๐ก๐๐ณ๐๐ซ๐๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ง ๐๐%.
The [decadal average] number of deaths attributed to weather hazards (e.g., severe storms, floods, droughts or extreme temperatures) have decreased by >96.2% since the 1920s. While this data does not reflect climate trends, it is a result of better warning coordination between officials and the general public. It also reflects advancements in forecast lead time, which has been enabled by powerful supercomputers that require fossil fuels to process data and use numerical weather prediction to print out forecasts. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/decadal-average-death-rates-from-natural-disasters
๐๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅ ๐๐ ๐ซ๐ข๐๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐๐ฎ๐๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐ญ ๐ซ๐๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ฌ.
Contrary to popular belief, crop yields have been at “all-time” record highs [since FAO data began in 1961] during the last 10-years.
Bananas: +1,821.0%
Potatoes: +1,480.0%
Maize / corn: +2,448.7%
Rice: +2,073.3%
Wheat: +2,481.9%
Soybeans: +1,960.8%
Peas, dry: +1,650.3%
Beans, dry: +1,483.3%
Cocoa beans: +1,381.6%
https://fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QCL
These trends are largely a byproduct of genetic engineering high yield crop varieties which are more resistant to inclement weather and invasive insect species.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4218791/
However, some of these trends may be augmented by higher CO₂ concentrations in the atmosphere and a longer growing season in the middle latitudes, caused by global warming. Even the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) of the U.S. admits this.
https://climatechange.chicago.gov/climate-impacts/climate-impacts-agriculture-and-food-supply
There is ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐
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๐๐๐๐ to suggest that a warmer planet is bad for humanity. There is ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐
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๐๐๐๐ to suggest that a warming climate has been [or will be] a net drawback to the overall state of human welfare. We have the ability to adapt to change with technology.
There is no “climate crisis” to tackle.
The fight is on. You are waging a war against safe, reliable energy that has lifted billions of people out of poverty, more than doubled life expectancy and has improved our standard of living. Life without fossil fuel is cold, dark and short. The only feasible alternative to coal and natural gas to power the grid is nuclear, but it is vehemently opposed in the west due to boundless compliance regulations and the fact nuclear secures us an economically prosperous future, which is not an aim of the de-growth agenda.

Hi again, Mike. Let’s go over this for what’s now a third time. Maybe it will sink in.
The Greenland ice sheet contains about 2.9 million gigatons (Gt) of ice. Using the conversion factor that 1 Gt = 1 billion tons, this means that the ice sheet has roughly 2.9 million billion tons of ice.
Oh yes, math is involved!!
Now, if the ice sheet is losing 30 million tons of ice per hour, that would work out to 720 million tons of ice lost per day and a net 262.8 billion tons per year. Here’s the math, -30 million tons × 24 hr. (1 day) × 365 days (1 year) = -262.8 billion tons / year
262.8 billion tons of ice lost per year?
Oh my, that sounds scary! That is, of course, until you realize that at the current rate, it would take more than 11,035 years for the entire Greenland ice sheet to melt. = >10 millennia
Let’s do more math to confirm this.
2.9 million billion tons / (262.8 billion tons / year) ≈ 11,035 years.
Now, what would this mean for sea level rise (SLR)? Well, according to NASA, for every 360 Gt (or 360 billion tons) of ice lost, the global average sea level rises by about 1 millimeter (mm).
http://sealevel.nasa.gov/understanding-…
If 262.8 billion tons of ice is lost per year, that would mean sea level rises at a rate of 0.73 mm (~0.03 in) / year from loss of Greenland ice alone. Ignoring Antarctica, this would cause the global average sea level to rise about 1 ft. every ~417.5 years.
Now, the rate of ice loss could accelerate or decelerate depending on other factors (e.g., natural variability or positive / negative climate feedbacks), but it’s clear from these back of the envelope calculations that you are hyperventilating over nothing.
This is a very manageable problem.
So is your climate anxiety.
Just stop parroting WEF propaganda and go touch grass.
Wrong again, son.
No matter how you try to square it, there is ๐ต๐ถ energy transition occurring. The percentage of solar photovoltaic (PV) and utility-scale wind power on the energy grid is relative to total energy. Just because they made up ~0% in the 1970s and are up to 6.1% now does not mean that fossil fuel consumption is going down [which would mean that an energy transition is occurring]. Ratios aren't useful metrics to assess energy transitions because demand for energy and fossil fuels has not held constant with the passage of time. For every six units of renewables added to the energy grid, less than one unit of fossil fuel comes offline. We are not making a transition, we are simply increasing absolute energy consumption, including global use of fossil fuels (e.g., Rather and Mahlik, 2023).
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10098-023-02689-8
Here are some emojis to help you grasp this seemingly difficult concept a little better.
The fact of the matter is fossil fuel growth continues to increase year after year, decade after decade. You aren't going to get to net zero with that.
https://ourworldindata.org/energy-production-consumption
Reality deniers like yourself view the world through a fairytale. People like me live in the real world.
Oh yeah? That a fact?
More tornadoes? Stronger tornadoes? Same thing with floods, droughts and derechos, too?
Beat your chest and feel that pride now because you're about to be body bagged with facts.
Let's take a look at your claims one by one.
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While tornado ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ have nearly doubled over the last 70 years, that does ๐๐๐ mean that actual tornado counts have increased. The increase in reporting has been driven almost entirely by ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ญ/๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฌ ๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐ and is ๐๐๐ a true climate-related trend.
The increase was gradual, albeit steady between 1954 and early-1990s due to rural population growth, which inevitably led to more spotter reports (e.g., Kunkel et al., 2013 and Tippett et al., 2015).
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/94/4/bams-d-11-00262.1.xml…
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40641-015-0006-6…
The spurious jump that is observed in the early 1990s is accredited to the installation and operational use of the NEXRAD WSR-88D Doppler radar, which greatly improved tornado detection in the absence of spotter reports (e.g., Verbout et al., 2006).
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/wefo/21/1/waf910_1.xml…
If F/EF0s are eliminated from the dataset, we can give a more historically accurate comparison between pre-1990 and post-1990 data by simply examining F/EF1+ tallies. If we do this, we find that,
✦ There has been ๐๐ measurable increase in annual F/EF1-5 tornado count in the U.S. since real-time data collection began in 1954 (NOAA SPC / Verbout et al., 2006).
✦ The number of strong-to-violent F/EF3+ tornadoes have decreased by >45% since 1960 (NOAA SPC).
https://spc.noaa.gov/wcm/data/1950-2023_torn.csv.zip…
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/wefo/21/1/waf910_1.xml…
What's more, the number of days per year with at least one F/EF1+ tornado in the U.S. have ๐
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since the 1970s. However, the number of days with ≥30 E/EF1+ counts have increased twofold over that same period, which might suggest that tornado outbreaks in the U.S. are increasing and becoming larger, as found in Moore (2017).
https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/joc.5285…
However, NOAA proceeds with caution here.
They say that the aforementioned trend emerged after the NEXRAD WSR-88D Doppler radar network came online for operational forecasting use during the early-1990s, and no statistically significant trends in the number of days with ≥30 E/EF1+ has been detected in the most recent 30-year period. Therefore, increased detection of weaker tornadoes in outbreaks due to the changes in observation platforms is again the culprit.
https://sciencecouncil.noaa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/1.1_SoS_-Fact_Sheet_Tornado-and-Climate_Final.pdf…
That was a bata-bata-swing and a miss.
Let's continue. . .
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The IPCC AR6 WG1 report summarizes what we know about floods and climate change nicely.
In regard to fluvial (river) flooding. . .
On detection, Chapter 11, Section 5.2,
“๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ค ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐คโ๐๐๐. ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ 3,500 ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค ๐ ๐ก๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ด, ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐ธ๐ข๐๐๐๐, ๐ด๐๐๐๐๐, ๐ต๐๐๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ด๐ข๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐, 7.1% ๐ ๐ก๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐ โ๐๐ค๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐, ๐๐๐ ๐๐.๐% ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ค ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ 1961-2005.”
https://ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/chapter/chapter-11/#11.5.2…
On attribution, Chapter 11, Section 5.4,
“๐ผ๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ โ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ โ๐๐โ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ค๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐. ๐ผ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐, ๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ก๐๐๐๐ข๐ก๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐ ๐ก๐ โ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ .”
https://ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/chapter/chapter-11/#11.5.4…
In regard to pluvial (flash) flooding, IPCC AR6 WG1 has this to say in their FAQ,
“๐ด๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐-๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐โ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ ๐ก, ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฆ โ๐ข๐๐๐-๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐โ๐๐ข๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ ... ๐ป๐๐ค๐๐ฃ๐๐, ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐
๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐. ๐โ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ก๐ฆ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐, ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐, ๐กโ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ก๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐, ๐๐๐ โ๐๐ค ๐ค๐๐ก ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ก... ๐ด ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐
๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ ๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ก๐๐๐๐ข๐ก๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐ , ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ค๐๐๐๐ก, ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐”
https://ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/resources/frequently-asked-questions/…
Once again, your claim falls apart like soup crackers when stacked against observational data.
Strike two!
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Here's what IPCC AR6 WG1 has to say.
On detection, Chapter 11, Section 6.4.5,
“๐โ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก โ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ . . . ๐โ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐
๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก โ๐ข๐๐๐-๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ข๐ก๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐, ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐. ๐ป๐ข๐๐๐-๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ข๐ก๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐-๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ค ๐๐๐๐ค, ๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐
-๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐.”
https://ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/chapter/chapter-11/#11.6…
As a supplement, Vicente-Serrano et al. (2022) examined temporal changes in various drought types. Their analysis concluded similarly that,
“๐จ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐ฆ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ฆ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ , ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐ ๐๐๐ค ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ค๐๐๐๐ ๐ โ๐๐ค ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐โ๐ก๐ .”
Additionally, the study found that changes in hydrological droughts were not due to human-caused climate change, but instead were related to other man-made influences such as land use change,
“๐ฐ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก ๐ก๐ โ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฃ๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ข๐โ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (๐.๐., ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐, ๐๐๐๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐ต๐๐๐ง๐๐).”
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsta.2021.0285…
Strike three!
You're out. But, I'll make that one a ball and give you one more shot.
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ / ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐
Derechos in particular are not assessed in-depth in the IPCC reports. But, it does fall under the umbrella term “severe convective storms”
Here's what the AR6 report has to say on those.
On detection, Chapter 11, Section 7.3.2,
“๐ผ๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐ ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐, ๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐
๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ .”
https://ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/chapter/chapter-11/#11.7.3.2…
On attribution, Chapter 11, Section 7.3.4,
“๐ผ๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ก ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก๐ก๐๐๐๐ข๐ก๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ . ๐โ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐ฅ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐ค๐๐กโ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ .”
https://ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/chapter/chapter-11/#11.7.3.4…
NOAA's Stephen Corfidi has a FAQ page on derechos, however, and here's what he has to say,
“A warmer planet at first glance would appear to be more conducive to the development of the intense thunderstorms that comprise derecho-producing convective systems. But thunderstorm updrafts require the presence of strong vertical temperature gradients; any warming occurring at the surface likely also would occur aloft. Thus, ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐. And, although a warmer environment implies greater atmospheric moisture content and conditional instability (instability related to the release of latent heat during condensation), all other factors remaining equal, the ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐-๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐. ๐บ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐
๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐. What is more certain is that the band of enhanced upper-level flow that encircles the planet — the jet stream — would contract poleward in a warmer world. Because derechos tend to form on the equatorward side of the jet stream along the northern fringes of warm high pressure ("fair weather") systems, it is reasonable to conclude that the corridors of maximum derecho frequency would shift poleward with global warming.”
https://spc.noaa.gov/misc/AbtDerechos/derechofaq.htm…
Strike three.
It's over.
You got sacked.
Wave the white flag now.
From facebook:
James J. McGrath
CAUSES OF NATURAL CLIMATE CHANGE…… James Mcgrath, PE 14 Aug 2021 last revd 23 Jul 2022
IF YOU THINK HUMANS CAN CONTROL CLIMATE, HERE ARE SOME OF THE NATURAL CAUSES THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO OVERCOME:
NATURES EFFECTS:
1. VARIATIONS IN SOLAR INPUTS, especially SUNSPOTS – Every 11 years elevated sunspot activity occurs on the Sun and is transmitted to earth as heat.
2. PRECESSION – The Earth’s axis moves in a cycle that lasts 26,000 years during which time it varies by 23 degrees from
the neutral axis which is perpendicular to the Suns rays. This changes the locations of deserts and forests.
3. ECCENTRICITY OF EARTHS ORBIT - Changes the distance from the Sun to Earth. This varies the amount of heat the Earth receives from the sun. It warms and cools the Earth, relatively. Called the Milankovich Cycle.
4. METEORS OR COMETS – Are plentiful but every so often can cause devastating changes in the Earth when they impact. One has been blamed for the extinction of the Dinosaurs at least in part.
5. VOLCANOS - Caused by tectonic plate movements, occur in unpredictable ways and have been known to create extreme global temperature variations. The eruption of Tambura caused the 1815 “Year without a Summer” with effects that lasted 3 years. There are approximately 1500 active volcanoes, 500 of which have erupted in modern times, and 60 of which are currently active in approx. 60 countries around the world. Yellowstone is a Super volcano that will really change the climate when it blows again…….. SUBMARINE VOLCANOS , or Seamounts, of which there are about 120 that have erupted in modern times, create about 75% of the magma of the Earth and also heat the oceans. Added by Stuart Munro.
6. SHIFTS IN THE EARTH’S MOLTEN CORE…. In unpredictable ways, changes the magnetic poles and moves them approximately 35 miles per year, and can lead to pole reversals every 7000 years.
7. GULFSTREAM (ancillary)– And other currents are generally consistent but variations of hundreds of miles can cause huge environmental changes.
8. JET STREAM SHIFTS (ancillary). They move heat energy in unpredictable ways.
9. INTERMITTENT INTERACTING CYCLES (ancillary) El Nina, El Nino, Atlantic Multi-Decadal, Pacific Multi-Decadal, Arctic/Antarctic and Madden-Julian Oscillations, etal. Periodic variable Warming and Cooling effects of atmosphere and water throughout the world. Added by Jim Mundy.*
10. UNPREDICTABLE ICE AGES (ancillary).
11. CONTINENTAL DRIFT – over the very long term.
12. MOON - Gravity sucks on all parts of the ocean and land and has world wide effects but localized based upon its immediate position. Added by Alecia Schmidt.
DID I MISS ANYTHING?
AS TO GLOBAL WARMING……….. The only measurements I have found are from NASA. They say that the Earth has warmed 1.53 deg F (+/- ?deg tolerance) since 1880. That is 142 years. THE PRESUMPTIONS OF WARMERS ARE: 1. That this trend will continue forever; and 2. That man caused this heating problem; and, 3. That man can cool down the earth. They further discount the evidence of the history of recorded weather that show that changes are natural and cannot be shown to be caused by humans*. They are so certain of this that they are willing to spend trillions of dollars on these prognostications that are ruining our economy. … MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A GUESS, UPON A GUESS , UPON A GUESS........ AND NEEDS TO BE STOPPED.
What exactly do climate “scientists” (and I emphasize the air quotes there) actually agree on?
What is the “consensus” really about? You need to be specific and elaborate. Do scientists virtually all agree that the Earth has been getting gradually warmer? Do they all agree that mankind contributes to that in some capacity? Or do they all agree that this warming is an existential threat? What is it that they agree on, Mark boy?
The 97 (sometimes stated as >99%) consensus does not actually exist. It was manufactured through pure sausage making techniques in two studies published in Environmental Research Letters (ERL): Cook et al. (2013) and Lynas et al. (2021).
Let's look closer at these studies.
๐๐๐ “๐๐% ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐”
The paper that got this all started was published in ERL in 2013.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024
Led by cognitive psychologist John Cook—a Senior Research Fellow at the Melbourne Centre for Behaviour Change and founder of the climate blog, Skeptical Science—he and eight co-authors skimmed the abstracts of 11,944 climate-related papers published between 1991 and 2011.
Of the 11,944 abstracts, a total of 7,930 (66.4%) of them expressed ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on the cause(s) of global warming since the pre-industrial era.
Of the remaining 4,014 abstracts that endorsed either anthropogenic global warming (AGW) or natural global warming, 3,896 (97.1%) endorsed AGW in at least some capacity, while 78 (1.9%) questioned or rejected AGW. The remaining 40 (1%) of papers expressed uncertainty.
But, it gets even more nuanced than that if we look at the abstracts and pick them apart. On whether global warming is being caused entirely by human activities, by nature, or by a combination of both, of those 4,014 papers, they state warming is caused:
Entirely by humans: 64 papers (1.59%)
>>50% by humans: 922 (22.96%)
Equally natural + man-made: 2,910 (72.50%)
>>50% by natural cycles: 54 (1.35%)
Man is causing no warming: 24 (0.60%)
Don't know: 40 (1.00%)
So, a “97% consensus” can be contrived by either (a) omitting the 7,930 (66.4% of) abstracts in the 11,944-paper sample that did not explicitly state a position on the drivers of global warming, or by (b) lumping all 3,896 abstracts that endorsed at least some anthropogenic component as entirely endorsing AGW.
Either way, that's sausage-making.
But, what about the >99% consensus?
๐๐๐ “>๐๐% ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐”
Like Cook et al. (2013), Lynas et al. (2021) attempted to quantify the consensus on AGW.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac2966
In this synthesis, 3,000 climate papers were selected at random. In that batch, 282 were marked as false positives since they weren't actually climate-related. That’s fair. So, the analysis continued with the remaining 2,718 peer-reviewed articles.
Of those, 1,869 (68.8%) of them took ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ on AGW. And, like Cook et al. (2013), all 1,869 papers neither endorsing nor rejecting AGW were discarded. Of the remaining 849 papers that did endorse a position, 845 (99.5%) of them sided with AGW while four did not.
So, like Cook et al. (2013), Lynas et al. (2021) ignored over 65% of the papers selected that didn't take one position or the other on the physical driver(s) of global warming. By doing this, the authors could artificially manufacture a consensus on an issue where none actually existed if all of the relevant papers were considered.
The advantage that Lynas et al. (2021) has over Cook et al. (2013) is that each paper was examined thoroughly rather than just the abstract. This made for a more thorough analysis despite the same flawed methodology both used in ignoring the majority of papers that took a neutral stance.
๐๐ฎ๐ญ, ๐ฐ๐๐ข๐ญ, ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ๐'๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐. . .
Climate activists will argue that the authors of Cook et al. (2013) and Lynas et al. (2021) were justified in excluding the 66.4% and 68.8% of papers, respectively, that did not express a position, on the grounds that those studies did not focus on identifying or discussing causal links.
But, that's just hand-waving.
The fact is that not all of the studies endorsing AGW investigated the physical driver(s) of temperature change since 1850. In fact, in order to qualify as endorsing (or rejecting) AGW, a paper merely needed to take a stance on the issue, regardless of whether or not the study's focus was on the physical drivers of climate change.
You will find when reading through the literature that even papers challenging the conventional narrative—such as on topics like climate model performance, trends in extreme weather, and/or the efficacy of “net zero” policies—almost always include the disclaimer that mankind's carbon dioxide (CO₂) emissions are the proximate cause of all global warming. This is done so that the paper satisfies reviewers and journal editors enough to get accepted for publication. This is the science equivalent of a land acknowledgement to be in good standing with gatekeepers.
Another point I should add about Cook et al. (2013) and Lynas et al. (2021) is that neither paper frame their findings as being a reflection of the “consensus of scientists.” So, when climate activists claim that 97-99% of experts agree, that's not accurately stating what these studies purport.
๐๐๐ข๐๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐๐ข๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐ฏ๐ฌ. ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐๐ง๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ ๐๐๐ข๐๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฌ
Another point I should add about Cook et al. (2013) and Lynas et al. (2021) is that neither paper frame their findings as being a reflection of the “consensus of scientists.” So, when climate activists claim that 97-99% of experts agree, that's not at all an accurate framing of these papers' findings.
The papers actually attempted to quantify the “scientific consensus” on AGW, which is a consensus of what the published literature says. That is different from a “consensus of scientists,” which is essentially nothing more than an expert opinion poll.
What's more, neither of these reviews addressed the million-dollar question, which is whether or not global warming has been [or will be] dangerous. Just because our GHG emissions ๐๐๐ฆ have caused some [or even most of the warming] since the onset of the Industrial Revolution, that tells us nothing about the level of danger posed by it short- and long-term.
So, what do we actually know about what scientists think about (a) the cause(s) of global warming and (b) whether or not they think it is dangerous?
Thankfully, we have some insight into that.
๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
While a “consensus of scientists” (i.e., expert opinion poll) is less robust than a “scientific consensus” (i.e., synthesis of published literature), one advantage that polling scientists for their opinion has over the latter is that it gives them anonymity to express their views on the issue without having to fear losing their job or having their paper(s) rejected by biased journal editors (the gatekeepers).
Prestigious, lauded scientific organizations such as the American Geophysical Union (AGU), the American Meteorological Society (AMS), and the Royal Society have manufactured a “consensus of scientists” by taking a very strong stance on the climate issue without first consulting their members for their views.
Both the AGU and AMS recently did just that following the Trump administration's decision to repeal the Obama-era 2009 Endangerment Finding that allowed the EPA to regulate tailpipe emissions.
From the AGU,
“๐ด๐บ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐, ๐คโ๐๐โ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ โ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐-๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก. ๐ผ๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐คโ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐’๐ ๐๐๐ข๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐, ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ โ๐๐๐ก๐ค๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ โ๐๐๐-๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ. ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐, ๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ข๐ ๐ก ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ.”
https://fromtheprow.agu.org/agu-denounces-trump-administrations-repeal-of-the-epa-endangerment-finding/
And, from the AMS,
“๐โ๐ ๐ด๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ (๐ด๐๐) ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐ด’๐ 2009 ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐, ๐คโ๐๐โ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐โ๐๐ข๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐๐ โ๐๐๐๐กโ ๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐-๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ก๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ .”
The letter continues, asserting without presenting a single shred of evidence, that,
“๐โ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐ โ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ค๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐. ๐โ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ข๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐๐: ๐โ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ โ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐-๐๐๐๐๐.”
https://ametsoc.org/ams/about-ams/news/news-releases/ams-releases-statement-regarding-the-decision-to-rescind-epas-2009-endangerment-finding/
Both statements were written without consultation of each organization's professional members.
Contrary to the AMS' partisan take, we actually have good insight into what their members think about (a) the cause(s) of global warming and (b) whether or not they think warming is dangerous.
In January 2016, Dr. Ed Maibach and colleagues from George Mason University (GMU) polled all 7,682 (at that time) professional members of the AMS on their views on climate change. A handful of questions were asked with several follow-ups.
https://gmuchss.az1.qualtrics.com/CP/File.php?F=F_cRR9lW0HjZaiVV3
The survey had a 53.3% participation rate and there were 4,092 respondents (p. 1).
Here are a sample of the questions asked:
๐ฅ๐ฒ๐ด๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฑ๐น๐ฒ๐๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐๐๐ฒ, ๐ฑ๐ผ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ธ ๐ฐ๐น๐ถ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ป๐ถ๐ป๐ด? (4,091 responses)
Yes: 96%
No: 1%
Don't know: 3%
✦ [Follow-up, only asked to those who answered “Yes” to 1] ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ฐ๐น๐ถ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ป๐ถ๐ป๐ด? (3,854 responses)
Extremely sure: 58%
Very sure: 31%
Somewhat sure: 10%
Not sure: 0%
✦ [Follow-up, only asked to those who answered “No” to 1] ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ฐ๐น๐ถ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐ป๐ถ๐ป๐ด? (53 responses)
Extremely sure: 13%
Very sure: 43%
Somewhat sure: 38%
Not sure: 6%
๐๐ผ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ธ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐น๐ถ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐ฒ ๐๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ผ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ฑ๐ฌ ๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ป ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฑ... (4,004 responses)
Largely / entirely by humans (>81%): 29%
Mostly by humans (60-80%): 38%
Roughly equally natural + man-made: 14%
Mostly by natural events (60-80%): 7%
Largely / entirely by natural events (>81%): 5%
Don't know: 6%
Climate has not changed: 1%
๐ง๐ผ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ธ๐ป๐ผ๐๐น๐ฒ๐ฑ๐ด๐ฒ, ๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐น๐ถ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ฑ๐ฌ ๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐? (4,002 responses)
Yes: 74%
No: 11%
Don't know: 15%
✦ [Follow-up, only asked to those who answered “Yes” to 6] ๐ช๐ต๐ถ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ผ๐น๐น๐ผ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐๐ ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐๐ฐ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ถ๐บ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐(๐) ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐น๐ผ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น ๐ฐ๐น๐ถ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ฑ๐ฌ ๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐? (3,546 responses)
Exclusively beneficial: 0%
Primarily beneficial: 4%
Equally mixed, beneficial + harmful: 36%
Primarily harmful: 36%
Exclusively harmful: 2%
Don't know: 21%
๐ง๐ผ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐๐ ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ธ๐ป๐ผ๐๐น๐ฒ๐ฑ๐ด๐ฒ, ๐๐ถ๐น๐น ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐น๐ผ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น ๐ฐ๐น๐ถ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐ฒ ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ป๐ฒ๐
๐ ๐ฑ๐ฌ ๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐? (3,963 responses)
Yes: 78%
No: 5%
Don't know: 17%
✦ [Follow-up, only asked to those who answered “Yes” to 7] ๐ช๐ต๐ถ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ณ๐ผ๐น๐น๐ผ๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐๐ ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐๐ฐ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ถ๐บ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐(๐) ๐ผ๐ณ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐น๐ผ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐น ๐ฐ๐น๐ถ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ๐ป๐ด๐ฒ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ ๐ผ๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ป๐ฒ๐
๐ ๐ฑ๐ฌ ๐๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐? (3,761 responses)
Exclusively beneficial: 0%
Primarily beneficial: 2%
Equally mixed, beneficial + harmful: 29%
Primarily harmful: 47%
Exclusively harmful: 3%
Don't know: 19%
So, based on this 2016 survey of professional AMS members, of those who responded,
• 96% of AMS members agree that climate change is occurring, regardless of the proximate cause.
• 67% of AMS members agree that change has primarily been human-caused, but the contribution estimates vary considerably. 67% is far from a consensus given that 33% have a different opinion.
• 38% of AMS members agree that the impacts of climate change in their localities have been negative over the last 50 years. However, 40% said that the impacts have been mixed or primarily beneficial, and 21% said that they weren't sure.
So, what can we truly conclude about the “consensus of scientists” on climate change?
• Is climate change occurring?
• Human activities contribute to global warming in at least ๐บ๐ถ๐ด๐ฌ capacity?
• Climate change is [or will be] dangerous?
Thus, just because global warming is real and play a role in causing it is not a good enough justification to rapidly eliminate fossil fuels from the energy mix. There must be sufficient proof that this tiny warming poses a great threat to the welfare of the planet and life on it, and that has yet to be provided contrary to the letters written by the AGU and AMS.
It is clear from the survey results that there is greater disagreement among scientists than you are misled to believe. Federal government and university research scientists are often told what they can and cannot say publicly about climate change. I know that for a fact because I have family members and friends that are federal employees OR university faculty that would be fired immediately if they stated what they really think about the issue.
Either way, consensus isn't science.
Science requires only one investigator who happens to have verifiable data and evidence.
Climate alarmists have not done that. They provide a bunch of modeling studies and hypotheticals stacked on top of hypotheticals. But if you look at real-world data on the quality of life, it has never been better. Comments from .. - Chris Martz critiques the "97% consensus" on anthropogenic global warming by analyzing Cook et al. (2013) and Lynas et al. (2021), which excluded 66-69% of neutral papers to derive high endorsement rates among the remainder, as visualized in the studies' charts.
- A 2016 American Meteorological Society survey of 4,092 members reveals 96% agreement that climate change is occurring and 67% attribute it mostly to humans, but impacts are seen as mixed: 36% primarily harmful over the past 50 years versus 40% beneficial or neutral.
- The thread argues that organizational statements like those from AGU and AMS do not reflect member views, emphasizing no consensus exists on warming's danger, and science relies on evidence over majority opinion, noting global quality of life improvements.
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